There is absolutely nothing wrong with testing the spirit, e.g. Lets be respectful to one another as co-inheritors of the Kingdom and not act in our flesh. The deaf were healed and the lame Just like Jesus did with his own disciples. Or has it being ongoing amongst everyday people since He was sent to indwell those whom God draws to Himself..? The Cloud of Glory Presence led them by day. Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles [8]Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faithwhich is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. concerning the different parts of the body, in particular 1 Cor. Many confessing christians are surrounded by familiar spirits because of unrepentant sins; Many are INFLUENCED by principalities and powers because of a lack of Walking by the Holy Spirit. Sndergaard's attorneys are filing an appeal. fromheaven,orofmen? 5. According to the doctrine of Pentecostalism, if you cant speak in tongues, then you are not saved. A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. It is the primary activity of the ekklesias, it is our goal as servants of our Lord Jesus Christ, it is how the world will be reached with the gospel of the Kingdom of God. This went on for quite some time, before he was exposed. The NATURE/FRUIT of God cannot be worked on or achieved by the determination of a person. Please let the Holy Spirit discern, not flesh judgement!! A creator, a public speaker, a faith healer, and a Danish Christian evangelist named Torben Sondergaard has stated that God addressed him directly. Yet is happy to come on here calling Torben a trickster. Why shouldnt the Truth be out there as well? Nothing wrong with asking questions. This move of God will not be among a hyper spiritual exclusive fringe group of religiois zealots but will be among the grassroots culturally mainstream families among regular moms and dads, children, marketplace workers, friends and nieghbours . Marilyn, thank you, I appreciate your concernI havent finished reading it yet.usually when I read a thing I just glean what I need to glean, and dont necessarily take in the whole thing. Jesus is real and He wants to be your Lord and Savior. Again something inside me drive me to ask if she was related to someone who had a 275 pound tumor. Seymour spoke with a man who had lost his arm ten years earlier through a work-related accident. Andrew, you of all people understand this in your battle against all the multitudes of people who follow people like Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley, Joel Osteen, and the list goes on and on. Are you sure what the difference is between washing with water and washing by blood? What was the root practice in baptism? it was the Jewish Mikvah, which was extremely important, even more important than the synagogue or the Torah scroll, which they could sell to build the Mikvah. Although not perfect, Andrew is not afraid to call out those who are preaching a false gospel, and that is something I respect him for and have supported him for. Do you remember the incident of the woman who touched the hem of Jesus garment? God is new every morning and so is His Holy Spirit leading. All of us instantly felt heat like a fire go through us all. Step 5. There were plenty of opportunities for this to be mentioned in the New Testament, but we never see it happening. A few weeks later the man came back, bringing about 200 people with him, telling many at the meeting that he had gotten his old job back. After commenting you have 15 minutes to EDIT your comment. Seymour shook his head and responded, Thats not good. Then we have WALKING ON WATER.PETER DID TOO for a short time. Unfortunately, all we have to test the spirits with is the video. Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. God said to the Apostles, and therefore also to us today Wait upon the Holy Spirit for the power from on high (for the HS unction) and then go out. He was (and is) one of Todd Bentleys biggest supporters. Do you think that mere men can in any way challenge God Himself and disprove what God is doing? We should let the Lord direct people in their belief. This sectarianism which Jesus condemned, is the spirit which dominated the Roman Church and was inherited by the Protestants. The Holy Spirit does the preparing of the soil of peoples hearts. Just confuses people. Praise God for men like Torben who have not been raised up in these schools for the prophetic. So, are you saying that water baptism is necessary to be saved and receive eternal life? 13:5). Because he wants to give us the more. Others fall into the `in His hand is a sacred censer.`, This shows the regenerative ability of the entitled Son of Man in His Creatorship & Judgeship. Moses was filled with UNBELIEF.Moses did not BELIEVE that God would do what He said He was going to do. The truth about Torben Sondergaard and the Last Reformation. a) of those startled by strange sights or occurrences If I were putting my life out in the public eye with videos on the Internet, then I would expect true believers to test what I was doing. There is just no convincing some people. Those that dont see what this man is doing, are not filled with the Holy Spirit. Not just be exposing the False. Editing Comments: We dont rely on one event or one experience as the whole crux of our spiritual salvation. His touch cleansed the leper, raised the dead, & restored the ear Peter had severed. In fact, without them I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. Read and KNOW the scriptures people, for the sake of the Kingdom of God and for the sake of your own selves and your families. What is wrong with people? In fact, they should welcome any such testing. If my words didnt reflect an honest spirit of wanting to do that, then I have failed and would ask your forgiveness. He senses the tragedy of a disabled body, whether through lameness, deafness, blindness or dumbness. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . Torben makes friends for himself and not for the Living Resurrected Lord of all. Friends are expressing dismay that a Danish man who works tirelessly spreading the gospel around the world has been arrested in America over charges of smuggling arms from Mexico into America. And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying: The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord; Make His paths straight. In all the videos, I dont see evidence in those being healed of being brought to repentance and an acknowledgement of Jesus as Lord. Why have we not seen this? I must say your eisegesis is astonishing. As I came out from under Rick Joyners Morning Star Ministries school for the prophetic, I see very many similarities from the teachings in that school to the teachings in Johnsons school. They all responded that truly God has come to Israel.. Love you all in the LordLightning Storm, you sure do keep me on my toes. Torben is the real deal because he seeks Christ and Christ alone. Dont for one moment let the cynics and hopelessness-mongers drag you down. Guess most like the overblown antics that most of todays healers/preachers do. The Key is always Humility and most importantly Giving God all the Glory. Jesus condemned the Pharisees not because they did not belong to His group, but because of their hypocrisy, untruthfulness and lack of love. Other christians have told me I cant discern what is true and what is wrong, and that what I received that wonderful day of salvation is not of God. Spiritual warfare against demons are often focused on too much where true spiritual warfare requires heart healing, denying lies and walking in truth. Just like the I would point also to Mathew 24:24 where Jesus says that even the elect will be deceived by false prophets performing signs and wonders. According to Torben Sndergaard, God made him time travel back to before he was born as a confirmation[27]. His legal team told us they have filed an administrative request for release with ICE Detention officer Alan Young, who has the power to order Torben released from custody pending his asylum trial. Jhn 17:18 NASB As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. And they said, To Johns baptism. Bringing the traveling road show called WIERDSVILLE into the mainstream of modern church life. Amen. (John said no one can have anything unless God gives it to him Jn3:27), Isaiah Saldivar is doing the same thing today>, http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAwakening209. Try it you will like it!!! And Christ is still healing, comforting, bearing our sorrows & griefs, through Torben, Barry, you & me & thousands upon thousands throughout the world. As Jeff Moore so elegantly wrote, Why should the Devil have all the good music? Besides which, you dont hear this kind of thing preached. There is no time like the present. Rather, it is the Holy Spirit authenticating the message I gave to you about Jesus Christ. Share on pocket. 2) to fear, be afraid of one c) (Piel) to make afraid, terrify No one ever questioned the authenticity of these healings. For me the thing that sets Torbin apart from the previous spiritual streams of the supernatural ( of which Bill Johnson is possibly the biggest a distributor of and that statement isnt evaluating Johnsons authenticity as a child of God- but just an objective fact) Nonetheless- the differene e between Torbin and this previous stream IS THAT TORBIN MOVES IN APIRITUAL POWER AND GIFTS WITHOUT DESCENDING INTO WIERDSVILLE!!!! HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? Redacted government documents surrounding his arrest can be viewed here at friendsoftorben.com. Egypt was a type of what we are called to come out of, the harlot church, by Gods grace let us not turn and become as those Egyptian priests. And it is the church of the future. Yeah, I think the bottom line is that people really need to read their bible more, and pray as you do it. Why there are so many conflicting statements here on the blog & not always the truth is that people have not been taught how God desires His Word to be interpreted. And full gospel is exactly what you will see Torbens Last Reformation is all about as he takes bits and pieces from every so called Christian doctrine and mingles them together. I just watched the original video after reading and watching the second video. We are not pulling down anyone. But our minds must CONFORM to the mind of Jesus Christ..not continually making up our own way of thinking. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is just the beginning to the spiritual and supernatural journey -we go on to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Im honestly smiling about this; not offended one bit, though I do feel sorry for yall. He said the hardest part is being separated from his wife and children. Sndergaard also read scripture as part of his defense to show how he was following Christ's commands, making the Bible part of the case record. They believe in the Divinity, they must be our brother/sister, right? Andrew, I am very disappointed that I come here with what I think is grace and humility attempting to speak from Gods word, and yet the response is more name calling and calling me to repentance. I believe in the Power of the Lord to do miracles. Cynicism is cynicism and it is unacceptable. It would be hard for God to grow a leg out when the wooden leg is attached. Sondergaard claims to be an apostle and healer of the faith. But, if they claim to be a Christians, and a leader, then people will follow them. If he performs miracles and preaches a false gospel of self effort religion, harsh treatment of the body , self imposed religiosity and legalism INSTEAD OF THE FAITH IN THE CROSS PLUS NOTHING THAT MAN IS A WOLF! Do you think because you read the bible that if you saw a man calling Himself Jesus, this very day, YOU WOULD BELIEVE IT WAS HIM? The simplicity, the sincerity & humbleness is so refreshing to see. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in 8 suitcases. Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. walked right on camera. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? 2.getting water baptized(immersed) on my faith in the name of Jesus Yes, the Todd Bentley type situation has made people skeptical in a more overt sense, however the discomfort with many issues rooted in spiritual deception in the practice and structure of christianity, already existed. When they came back to the disciples, they saw a large crowd around them, and some scribes arguing with them. All I was doing was pointing out that the video evidence alone doesnt prove what it purports to prove. By its fruit you will know whether the tree is good or bad. Rom 3:23 KJV For all have sinned, and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD; In other words.you have failed to manifest the tangible Presence of God and His Nature. 4) I can do ALL things IN (while I am abiding in HIS Presence) Christ Jesus Frankly, if I would have seen this first, I would seriously reconsider my opinion of Andrew Strom. If you will analyze that Greek word, you will see it means the life or substance of His being, the quickening, living power of God, the very nature and being of God., Torben is doing what God has commssioned him to do & i think thats Awesome! Marilyn. Keep standing strong in the Lord and preaching and demonstrating the Truth in these last days. Im pretty sure there isnt any FEAR in the DIVINE Holy Spirit. back there. Mental facilities will be empty because everyone will be given a sound mind, just like the man with the legion of demons in him. I simply yielded to what Jesus wanted to do in that household! Now you go and dunk yourself in a swimming pool, a bath tub? In fact, OUR MANNA OUGHT TO BE FRESH EVERY MORNING as we progress in our relationship and understanding of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom. The one thing youve missed is that water is mentioned first and then the Holy Spirit. I praise God for the healing that God does through him and yet my heart is saddened by the lack of healing for saints suffering in the Church. Brother Seymour asked the crowd, Would you like to see God have a wonderful time here tonight? We live in a day and age of global information. It is actually I just cried watching the video. God will move you along as fast as your faith will allow. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He (Jesus) explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` (Luke 24: 27). But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Person will mostly manifest a demon (Satan has to put on a show after all). Let the cheap Jesus impersonations cease! They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in 8 suitcases. For us to think we can do anything apart from God, means we have cut ourselves off from Him. `in His right hand He held the 7 sealed book.`, This shows the reconciliative advocacy of the exalted Son of Man. These are genuine brothers in Christ, myself I have no doubt of that, I love them just from the videos, and I believe they have genuine spiritual gifts. We need Bible-based Spirit-filled believers who know how to lead in love and truth, not arrogantly or obsessively and not teaching junk food. But Yeshua calls His followers sheep. I do remember Him saying something about the Pharisees who was calling Him evil for healing and casting out devils. I really dont think hes a charlatan, I just think we SERIOUSLY need to consider not doing things that look like trickery. Show me an authentic video of that happening with the person healed repenting and declaring Jesus as Lord; then Ill agree that the Spirit has met the test and passed. This is what deception is all about. You dont know me, nor do I know you. I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. Stay bless. Matthew 7: ! All the false ministers being mentioned started out in simplicity with the spiritual gifts that they had been given. It says He was manifested (incarnated) to take away our sins while there was no sin in Him. etc. What you said is correct. USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in eight suitcases. Very bad thing to lead off with. To accredit the winsome and wonderful man Christ Jesus with convulsions, animal noises, crears, hundreds of people acting completely out of control, jerking , wild shaking, out of control mocking laughter- to attribute these to Jesus is blasphemy and just plain stupid! Jda 016, VOILA.hundreds of people come forward in 1 hour! The only reason I havent is that Andrew vouches for him and I know Andrews heart. They are still carrying the sting of it, instead of saying, O death where is thy sting? If water was able to wash away sins, we would have had no need of Jesus becoming flesh, of his cross, and of his blood. Too many of us have gone too far the other way as a result of the charismania hype and false revivals. It is actually part and parcel of the Hebrew Roots Movement as well, all bound together in a nice Roman Catholicpurple ribbon. I believe that our God is a might God who is 100% sovereign over everything, including life and death. I believe Torben has been shown a number of things that are Teaching of every sort exists and is readily available online. Here is your test- Bitter and sweet water do not flow forth from the same fountain. Or are these myths? Jesus so many times told those He had healed to tell no-one. If we dont learn from history we are bound to repeat it. The Strongs concordance for the one baptismG908 in Eph4:5 I would have liked to post what God showed me about Emma the angel being a demon. That is what makes it an exciting journey. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. The answer to that question is I most certainly try when I feel the Lord speaking to me. opposite ditch of Legalism and cynicism of anything supernatural. Subtley shifting the focus away from the divine purpose of revival from repentance and faith in Jesus alone towards centralizing and making WIRRDSVILLE the main objective of revival. Im just having fun. We should not think more highly of ourselves than we ought. I would like to read the entire book. A GLOWING FACE that appears WEIRD enough to scare others In early church for a season it was said of the Lords work which became so prevalent , This gospel is spreading to more and more people so that everyone in Asia Minor has heard about it and from that time forward the name of Jesus became greatly feared amoung all the poeple and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world and then the end will come.. People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. Perhaps you should read the whole passage up to verse 12. Thank you Lord. Just because someone says Lord, Lord, does not mean he is a child of God. Seymour laid hands on the man and proclaimed, Let Thy Name be Glorified. We dont have to obey the law because the Father himself now tells us what is right and what is wrong. Does that mean they REPENTED AND GOT BORN AGAIN? There may have been those that didnt respond in love and in a true biblical manner to honestly test the spirits, but to generalize anyone who didnt believe the video as true biblical healing as a cynic was wrong to do. Always listen to the teaching and doctrine of the one doing the miracles first and second if you are able check out the fruit (lifestyle) of the one doing miracles. According to people present, Todd Bentley said: In the Bible, in John 5 provides a healing outpouring the Pool of Bethesda, which means an outpouring of grace. 542. A wooden staff that turns into a snake. Mental facilities will be empty because everyone will be given a sound mind, just like the man with the legion of demons in him. TheDude, telling us you are being humble and gracious REAKS of self-righteousness . The apostles werent charlatans when Jesus cautioned them to rejoice only that their names were in the book of life, and Jesus was surely not a charlatan when they tried to put him on a pedestal and make him a king. Listen, I can only tell you about someone that really has raised the dead and dying by the power of Yeshua. This is a VERY important part of following Jesus , He tells everyone to do this . Jesus shows us TRUE FAITH. b) to fear, be afraid c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience. Being FEARFUL, WORRIED, ANXIOUS, CONCERNED is the opposite of putting your FAITH (trust and confidence) in God. 35 years of not seeing healings and being told they dont happen today have a very bad effect on my faith, and I need this to show me that it doesnt have to be like that after all! The lawsuit states the belief that Sndergaard's arrest by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement(ICE) officerwas based on "anonymous tips" that "originated from (the) Defendant's misinformation.". Seymour had approached a man with a wooden leg and asked, What did you come here for? The man replied, I want you to pray for my leg. There is a guy in the pool at 2:02 min he is speaking in tongues. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. Mar 9:39 KJV But Jesus said, Forbid him not: FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SHALL DO A MIRACLE IN MY NAME, THAT CAN LIGHTLY SPEAK EVIL OF ME. If we should respect simple grammar and honour the first mentioned in sentences, it means that one must first be saved by water before you can receive the Holy Spirit. I`ve felt people try & do that to me. Also, please read what our Jesus did. What I find very disappointing is that when some of us want to engage in an honest discussion about this story, we are met with name calling and ridicule. Discerning the World 2008 - 2022. He had no interest in any institutional organization with worldly offices and laws. Jesus died for US and it was done perfectly! I perceive a very tiny bit of pride, but only the amount I would expect from any believer. When we see the goodness of the Lord in our lives, when he heals us and fills us with his presence, it not only convinces and blesses us, but convinces unbelievers. But I dont think he forbids us either to learn and talk about what scripture teaches us, concerning not profaning the holy things (specifically miracles) and where it can lead, especially where miracles are taking place. Evangelist Torben Sondergaard As a national threat for bringing firearms into the country, Torben Sondergaard was detained. The Jews did not APPROVE of the UNACCEPTABLE AND UNEXPECTED BEHAVIOR of Jesus Christ..therefore did not RECOGNIZE nor BELIEVE WHO HE WAS and did not want Him to be their King. We are to give witness to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that He is alive in us doing the same works and even greater works. Its obvious from these verses that those performing these counterfeit miracles do so under the honest belief that they are doing them in the name of Jesus, but God is clear that they are not. He suggested some excercises for a posture problem. Please give us all another chance and send us out in your name again! People who claim to be believe in Jesus who dont even recognize Him when He is in one if His servants doing exactly what He always does- loving ordinary people, healing the sick, casting out demons and preaching good news??? And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. Torben says himself at 6:44into the Speaking in Tongues video above that speaking in tongues is an amazing gift that EVERYONE should have because if you are not baptised in the Holy Spirit well according to Torben you are not saved, and that speaking in tongues is an amazing tool God has given us to come into a strong prayer life and relationship with him. Our steps are to grow brighter and brighter. And Jesus said, Who touched Me? When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, Who touched Me? But Jesus said, Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me.. Aarons rod that buddedmiraculously. (Luke 22: 51) As the Bible says, we are to not only test the spirits, but we are to examine ourselves (2 Cor. This means we ALREADY HAVE THIS REVIVAL LIGHT OF JESUS IN US SHINING! uncanny implies disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness . Chas351 God has not changed, He still does miracles as signs following the gospel, and praise Him for it! I believe the purpose of Torbens video is to show how to make disciples, take them out on the street to pray and witness. The rest all succumbed in the desert because of their sins and disbelief. Those clips only showed a small part of what was taking place (good or bad) and there is no way of telling just by that (unless God revealed it) whether it was of God or not. The FIRE that is called down from heaven in the last days by the Antichrist and his ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15) will lead to the wild fire spread of speaking in tongues. Please check your SPAM if you do not receive confirmation email. acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. TheDude, the reason I asked you if you do obey the Lord and do everything Jesus tells you to do was not for examples , but as a type of test to see if you are able to say yes. She did not speak but apparently was amazed at the effect in her body. Ruining the faith of the faithful is most important to him. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and to regularly receive divine visions. Jhn 17:13 NASB But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves. What the gentleman from Denmark is doing can to very easily be confused with the frauds and charlatans who claim to have healing ministries. Rather than deal with this in a respectable and honest manner, all that happens is people resort to name calling, ridicule, and saying that just because multitudes of people believe it, therefore it must be true. The Hebrews made that same mistake and they got burned badly. In whatever FORM God deems necessary for the people to BELIEVE that He exists and that He is GOOD/can be TRUSTED. After the time of the book of Acts came to an end, speaking in tongues and prophecy ceased. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. It has got to the point where I can hardly After all, Paul was not sinless like Jesus. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand [was] leprous as snow. He may think he is, but it may be otherwise. He does not require us to do anything for Him, but on the contrary, works through us to do His will, and pleasure. 1.Repent(turn back) to the Father That was my concern when I read that long, complicated, history focussed misguiding information posted by Chas351. Even in our disagreements we need to be glorifying God in all that we do. Torben Sondergaard was born in 1976 into a non-Christian family. The day is coming when nobody will question who is of God and who is not, because gross darkness will cover the earth and the people, but the glory of the Lord will be SEEN upon HIS people! In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. It is good to testify, in simplicity, and as the Lord leads when it is seemly and glorifying to Him, but it is not for us to try and make it into something. Organizer Torben Sondergaard is the man promoting his "Big Tent Revival" events on social media. 7 And all the men were about twelve. TLR is a classic cult and Torben Sondergaard is a classic cult leader. I mean lets get serious now, how many of you reading this article thought to yourself, why do they get this gift and I dont? by Jonathan Welton. Here is a website for more information on what I am talking about: https://www.friendsoftorben.com/ And this video while you're at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJyr0DKyms Spread the word! Now was I healed, by the Healer, Lord Jesus (to whom I give all credit, thanks and the glory) because of the leg pulling method, or despite it..? He said that they needed to be naked before the Lord, or the Lord would not give him prophetic words for them. 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